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		<title>Comment on UFC Files Lawsuit Against NY State by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, check this out: 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, check this out:<br />
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		<title>Comment on UFC Files Lawsuit Against NY State by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the lawsuit is based on its vagueness. That goes into the due process and equal protection parts, although that isn&#039;t their entire argument. They spend a large part of their argument making the case that it is too vague. 

Clearly they are trying to prove that MMA is a form of expression that should be protected under the first amendment. That is their biggest argument. Do you see that succeeding? I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the lawsuit is based on its vagueness. That goes into the due process and equal protection parts, although that isn&#8217;t their entire argument. They spend a large part of their argument making the case that it is too vague. </p>
<p>Clearly they are trying to prove that MMA is a form of expression that should be protected under the first amendment. That is their biggest argument. Do you see that succeeding? I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UFC Files Lawsuit Against NY State by Joe Romel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Romel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the record, the lawsuit isn&#039;t based on the law&#039;s vagueness. I don&#039;t know why you keep mentioning that. The lawsuit is arguing that the banning of their sport is unconstitutional, not that the law isn&#039;t specific enough. I&#039;m sure that the vagueness of some of the law&#039;s elements is mentioned in the suit, but that&#039;s not the basis of their case. They also mention the paradox of amateur MMA fights being legal, as well as MMA training in gyms, within the state, but that&#039;s not what they&#039;re hanging their hat on. It&#039;s just part of the argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the record, the lawsuit isn&#8217;t based on the law&#8217;s vagueness. I don&#8217;t know why you keep mentioning that. The lawsuit is arguing that the banning of their sport is unconstitutional, not that the law isn&#8217;t specific enough. I&#8217;m sure that the vagueness of some of the law&#8217;s elements is mentioned in the suit, but that&#8217;s not the basis of their case. They also mention the paradox of amateur MMA fights being legal, as well as MMA training in gyms, within the state, but that&#8217;s not what they&#8217;re hanging their hat on. It&#8217;s just part of the argument.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UFC Files Lawsuit Against NY State by Joe Romel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Romel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The legislature would have to write a separate bill for other martial arts if they wanted to ban them. There&#039;s no slippery slope here. Besides, nobody wants to ban martial arts, and nobody&#039;s looking to ban MMA DVD or PPV distribution. All anyone wanted to do was ban MMA from coming to the state, and back in the late 90s, New York wasn&#039;t the only state banning it. 

And I don&#039;t believe they&#039;re within their rights to ban MMA. I don&#039;t see how you come to the conclusion they are based on the law. You can&#039;t ban something for being violent or promoting violence. There is precedent in the courts upholding the rights of game makers, musicians, even other sports, of doing their thing in front of audiences. The Zuffa lawsuit even cites a recent California case. 

The only reason this law is even on the books is because nobody&#039;s taken it in front of the courts before. Now that Zuffa&#039;s about to, there shouldn&#039;t be an issue getting it repealed. I don&#039;t know what sort of argument would convince you, but ultimately that&#039;s unimportant, because the law is unconstitutional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The legislature would have to write a separate bill for other martial arts if they wanted to ban them. There&#8217;s no slippery slope here. Besides, nobody wants to ban martial arts, and nobody&#8217;s looking to ban MMA DVD or PPV distribution. All anyone wanted to do was ban MMA from coming to the state, and back in the late 90s, New York wasn&#8217;t the only state banning it. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t believe they&#8217;re within their rights to ban MMA. I don&#8217;t see how you come to the conclusion they are based on the law. You can&#8217;t ban something for being violent or promoting violence. There is precedent in the courts upholding the rights of game makers, musicians, even other sports, of doing their thing in front of audiences. The Zuffa lawsuit even cites a recent California case. </p>
<p>The only reason this law is even on the books is because nobody&#8217;s taken it in front of the courts before. Now that Zuffa&#8217;s about to, there shouldn&#8217;t be an issue getting it repealed. I don&#8217;t know what sort of argument would convince you, but ultimately that&#8217;s unimportant, because the law is unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UFC Files Lawsuit Against NY State by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t trying to say that a judge would ban karate or something, I&#039;m just saying that the legislature is still within rights to do that if they want to. And they&#039;re within rights to ban MMA. 

I just don&#039;t see a judge lifting the ban because some elements of it aren&#039;t specific. Obviously the arguments have to play out in court, but the argument as written didn&#039;t totally convince me. I&#039;m still waiting for some actual legal experts to weigh in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t trying to say that a judge would ban karate or something, I&#8217;m just saying that the legislature is still within rights to do that if they want to. And they&#8217;re within rights to ban MMA. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see a judge lifting the ban because some elements of it aren&#8217;t specific. Obviously the arguments have to play out in court, but the argument as written didn&#8217;t totally convince me. I&#8217;m still waiting for some actual legal experts to weigh in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UFC Files Lawsuit Against NY State by Joe Romel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Romel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I just remembered that the ban PERMITS AMATEUR MMA FIGHTS IN NEW YORK. 

Barring any nonsense like a corrupt judge, this ban is dunzo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I just remembered that the ban PERMITS AMATEUR MMA FIGHTS IN NEW YORK. </p>
<p>Barring any nonsense like a corrupt judge, this ban is dunzo.</p>
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		<title>Comment on UFC Files Lawsuit Against NY State by Joe Romel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Romel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asking a judge to consider the legality of a law does not mean that, if the judge should concur, all other previously unrelated parties would then be included. That isn&#039;t how it works. The judge can&#039;t just say &quot;Oh, wow, we should add karate and boxing and MMA PPVs to this as well,&quot; because none of those things are included in the ban, and a judge can&#039;t write legislation. All the judge can do is say &quot;Yes, this is constitutional,&quot; or &quot;No, this isn&#039;t constitutional.&quot; 

And yes, if the judge says the ban is illegal, and Zuffa wins the lawsuit, MMA would then be legal. There wouldn&#039;t be a need for another hearing, they could do a PPV outside the courthouse if they wanted. (UFC 150: Brawl at City Hall!) 

Asking to be protected under due process and equal protection doesn&#039;t mean that Zuffa&#039;s asking to make a case for itself, it means that they&#039;re saying the government has to make a better case to ban them. And if the judge agrees, then the current ban is lifted, and if the government wants to have another go, so be it, but they&#039;ll have to start from scratch, and in the meantime we&#039;ll have some pretty awesome cards in NY. Hopefully one right in Albany! 

I&#039;m not a lawyer, so I don&#039;t know how much of what Zuffa says in their lawsuit will hold water, but I can tell you that they probably don&#039;t have to make much of a case anyway. Just getting the judge to consider the legality of the ban should be enough, since it&#039;s not constitutionally legal to ban something just because it&#039;s violent or sends a bad message. That&#039;s why, despite dozens of attempts to ban certain titles, video games are still legal in the US. 

The government also said MMA is unsafe, and on that count Zuffa has the facts on its side. So, really, if those are the only two reasons New York could come up with to ban MMA, the courts probably will repeal it. 

I&#039;m just glad they&#039;re finally doing this. If they had done this five years ago, we&#039;d already be going to shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking a judge to consider the legality of a law does not mean that, if the judge should concur, all other previously unrelated parties would then be included. That isn&#8217;t how it works. The judge can&#8217;t just say &#8220;Oh, wow, we should add karate and boxing and MMA PPVs to this as well,&#8221; because none of those things are included in the ban, and a judge can&#8217;t write legislation. All the judge can do is say &#8220;Yes, this is constitutional,&#8221; or &#8220;No, this isn&#8217;t constitutional.&#8221; </p>
<p>And yes, if the judge says the ban is illegal, and Zuffa wins the lawsuit, MMA would then be legal. There wouldn&#8217;t be a need for another hearing, they could do a PPV outside the courthouse if they wanted. (UFC 150: Brawl at City Hall!) </p>
<p>Asking to be protected under due process and equal protection doesn&#8217;t mean that Zuffa&#8217;s asking to make a case for itself, it means that they&#8217;re saying the government has to make a better case to ban them. And if the judge agrees, then the current ban is lifted, and if the government wants to have another go, so be it, but they&#8217;ll have to start from scratch, and in the meantime we&#8217;ll have some pretty awesome cards in NY. Hopefully one right in Albany! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer, so I don&#8217;t know how much of what Zuffa says in their lawsuit will hold water, but I can tell you that they probably don&#8217;t have to make much of a case anyway. Just getting the judge to consider the legality of the ban should be enough, since it&#8217;s not constitutionally legal to ban something just because it&#8217;s violent or sends a bad message. That&#8217;s why, despite dozens of attempts to ban certain titles, video games are still legal in the US. </p>
<p>The government also said MMA is unsafe, and on that count Zuffa has the facts on its side. So, really, if those are the only two reasons New York could come up with to ban MMA, the courts probably will repeal it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just glad they&#8217;re finally doing this. If they had done this five years ago, we&#8217;d already be going to shows.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jon Jones is Awesome, But&#8230;.. by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 00:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, dude. Nobody wants to see a guy win a fight on leg kicks. Nobody wants to pay money to see that fight. Remember that awesome Forrest Griffin/Rampage fight? No, you don&#039;t, because it wasn&#039;t awesome. It was Rampage getting hurt and Griffin leg kicking him to a win. 

I want to see Jones fill those holes and be the most bad-ass dude of all time. Or I want to see somebody beat his ass. I want to see Lyoto Machida from 2009 come in on a DeLorean with flaming wheels and challenge him and whoop his ass, or make him really think real hard about becoming a legit striker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, dude. Nobody wants to see a guy win a fight on leg kicks. Nobody wants to pay money to see that fight. Remember that awesome Forrest Griffin/Rampage fight? No, you don&#8217;t, because it wasn&#8217;t awesome. It was Rampage getting hurt and Griffin leg kicking him to a win. </p>
<p>I want to see Jones fill those holes and be the most bad-ass dude of all time. Or I want to see somebody beat his ass. I want to see Lyoto Machida from 2009 come in on a DeLorean with flaming wheels and challenge him and whoop his ass, or make him really think real hard about becoming a legit striker.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jon Jones is Awesome, But&#8230;.. by Joe Romel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Romel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 02:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. The holes you talk about are the kind that could get him knocked out by someone who has no business knocking him out. That&#039;s the kind of thing (the recklessness, not the lack of conditioning) that cost Urijah Faber his title against Mike Brown. Flashy is good when it&#039;s unexpected, but there&#039;s a reason MMA doesn&#039;t look like a Kung-Fu movie. 

I do think Jones is the most talented fighter in that division, but talent only takes you so far. If he&#039;s going to become the next dominant champion in the sport, he has to patch the holes. 

Also, I don&#039;t &quot;respect&quot; Jones for taking the path of most resistance. That was stupid and could have cost him, and *absolutely* exposed him to future opponents. Guys like Anderson Silva and GSP change their approach to exploit their opponents&#039; greatest weaknesses, and that&#039;s why they&#039;re dominant champions. Doing it any other way gets you beat in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. The holes you talk about are the kind that could get him knocked out by someone who has no business knocking him out. That&#8217;s the kind of thing (the recklessness, not the lack of conditioning) that cost Urijah Faber his title against Mike Brown. Flashy is good when it&#8217;s unexpected, but there&#8217;s a reason MMA doesn&#8217;t look like a Kung-Fu movie. </p>
<p>I do think Jones is the most talented fighter in that division, but talent only takes you so far. If he&#8217;s going to become the next dominant champion in the sport, he has to patch the holes. </p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t &#8220;respect&#8221; Jones for taking the path of most resistance. That was stupid and could have cost him, and *absolutely* exposed him to future opponents. Guys like Anderson Silva and GSP change their approach to exploit their opponents&#8217; greatest weaknesses, and that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re dominant champions. Doing it any other way gets you beat in the long run.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Examining The Odds: UFC 135 by Ben</title>
		<link>http://noholdsbarredmma.com/2011/09/21/examining-the-odds-ufc-135/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to see more from Jones before I buy the hype. We see a different Rampage every fight. If the good Rampage shows up, I think he wins. If average or bad Rampage shows up, no chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to see more from Jones before I buy the hype. We see a different Rampage every fight. If the good Rampage shows up, I think he wins. If average or bad Rampage shows up, no chance.</p>
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